Thats the planes ive tried. the F-Air allmost gets at stall hover, but when I get zerospeed in all directions, it just behaves like a total engine shutdown and flickt its tail up.
Then Ive tried the snoopy biplane one, its got a little bit better stallspeed, but still does the same. Do I need to a torgue roll or can I keep the wing straight without spinning on its axle like nuts?

Wich one of those planes do you reccomend most?