HEAR HEAR r6racer2 !!!!! Love the reply! I myself don't have a starter box but read just to see what they are all about, am thinking of one. Myself, What's another 8lbs? when you carry a tackle box with you full of extra parts, sure beats walking out of those woods after you break something in ten minutes. be prepared and take it with you, if you can't handle 8lbs. , then go electric.