Ed and BW:

SY machinery, in Red China makes three very well known brands, and several less popular engines.

The Magnum brand is well known here, and as you said, Ed, the ASP engines are from the same factory.

They also produce the SY engines, I understand that brand is well known in Oz. There are other less well known private label brands also.

Oh, the third very well known brand? RCV.

Bill.