RE: Those pattern guys
Doing this pattern stuff will improve your flying no end. Just think about presentation within the 3d game. You will tidy it up so much.
You will be surprised at the amount of people that can prop hang, blender, flatspin etc etc, yet can't do a circuit without gaining losing height, with identical legs.
I still think the pattern guys are incredible.
One chap up club went from pattern to 3d, and he is amazing at it, even though there are guys there can do the manouevers better than him, he looks good doing it, because between moves, he's flying so precise. His harrier circuits, look like circuits, and not a plane flying around doing a harrier. His low rolls are amazing, he comes down the runway, rolls left, and his wing is about 10inches of the ground. holds it there, then on to his back, then the same with the other wing and finishes it off with a climbing snap. Amazing,
Don't dish um till you ttried it.
I'm with Bigned on this!!!!!!