I know that what I am about to say will get a lot of folks hot but I will not buy another Aeroworks ARF. I have bought 2 of them and been unhappy both times with the finished product. Now these are great flyers--- but as stated above I think I was expecting more. After buying my Great planes Wagstaff and Pitts ARF at $400 and then paying $600 for a product that included absolutely no hardware and did not go together as well--- well I will just say that I will not buy another Aeroworks ARF. Too many other "better deals" out there at the present time. I'll leave it at that.