Ah, how i L O V E this forum . Knew this post was gonna get hot. Sweet, guys. Keep `em coming and this could be a "sticky" [8D]. Started looking for an instructor now. But it will be a month or so before the craft is airworthy. Yes, i know the sims are just that, simulators, but its good to get the basic reflexes in (might save the plane a couple of times, I hope). And to learn control reversal (damn, inverted controll reversal is hard. Good thing its just polygons that smashes to the ground ). Using RealityCrafts lovely RC Plane Master and are having real fun. Cant wait to try the "real thing".