Like I said, hopefully this thread will weed out some of those misadvertised, and poor quallity ARF's. We find out which ones are a consistant problem, and stay clear of those. The ones that are left that nobody has complained about to much should be considered as good buys, and your odds of getting a bad one much less. If you decide to buy one that you have read many complaints about, then you should'nt be shocked when you yourself get a bad one. If you do your homework on a Plane and find that most people have really enjoyed it, and have had little problems, then you can be shocked if you get a bad one. The good side of this is that most company's that make Great Airplanes will also have great Customer Service. The ones that make the bad ones, you may be lucky to even find a phone number for.