I think this is amazing how you can start a thread, I don't know how many years ago, and then have 80 pages worth of posts, this on will be the 2377th post when I get done.......I think i said before, but it is so interesting to go back to like the first post and see what people were talking about even before the UCD came out.....what engine they were going to put in it, the servos, and stuff like that....