I started the thread asking about using the Ultra Stick as a Trainers. One reason I think now think the Stick would be a good trainer is.

1) On windy days you can still fly it.
On windy days the trainer I use is bounded around and is very hard to land It wants to keep floating. So it would seem that you would have more days to train on. I am in Texas and there have been times that it was just to windy for my trainer to fly.

2) A good point was made that the reason trainers were made is that they are easy to mass produce Flat bottom and Flat wing....

3) Money wise it would seem that The Ultra stick is better. If you are able to use it as your 1st and second plane then you will have more money for other things. As most people say after you learn to fly you w ill get bore with that trainer plane. While on a stick you can set the trown and i can grown with you.

4) It would see if you can get your hands on a Good simulator then a stick and a buddy box might be the way to go.

** The one negative I see with the stick is that you will have to use the buddy box a little longer and and if your are older it might be a little harder to see and harder to fly. A nice big trainer is very easy to see.