Yep,my fault, the plane is by SEAGULL, not H9, But since Horozion is the one bringing the SEAGULL stuff into country my brain just happened to associate it with H9. You would have thought i would have know better since the one in the pic is mine. I shall edited my post to reflect the facts as they are, not as i thought they were in a epoxy glue fume induced state---------or was it CA? I forget.