A few years ago when Dave Patrick was first starting his company, I had the pleasure of talking to him at length on the phone. I told him that I had owned all of his designs over the years, but my favorite was the Jungman I had with a Webra 1.20. He seemed very surprised. He told me that it was one of the worst sellers that Goldberg ever produced and he thought it was because of the looks. That must be true, because CG still kits all of Dave Patrick designed planes-- EXCEPT THE JUNGMAN! Oh well......