Ok I dont know about all these little foamy electric 3D planes, but I want to get into them. Ok on the Shockflyers, it appears that everyone is using a high quality brushless motor. Ill use the example AXI 2208/32. They say that the shockflyers with this motor come out at between 9 and 11 oz. My question is will this same setup work on the new Horizon Hobby E-Flite Ultimate. They claim it comes out at 9 oz. without battery. Lets just pretend it comes out a 14oz. ready to fly. will this setup still have enough power to hover and pull out. Also what are some more motors that have similar specs to the AXI and what speed controller would you recommend. I need to know something tonight if at all possible so I can order something and get it on the way before the Holiday. Any help would be greatly appreciated.