my mad force is the ***** Right now i have owned a savage a titan and then some trugys but the mad force is the best right now the savage is goo and tough!!! but the tanks sucks fuel tank that is, the titan is crap! but the body rules so the titan body on the bad force is good combo also the savage is nice only because you need and i replaced the engine but the mad force the engine is great i even bout a new orion wasp 26 for it but it don't need it I'm going to sell it the 21 is plenty of power , it keeps up with my Buddy's tricked savage .25 picco MT AND I HAVE A .21 Engine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he has to lean the engine to just pull up ahead of me but then it over heats!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow mad force rules