ORIGINAL: excaliber
J-R,
what does anyone know of the incident more than the eyewitness.
the referrence made of #6 of the S & L committee was because of post 19.
And what is it with you rehashing the whys and wherefor of what was.
The point was someone mention an investigation. And it seemed that by coincidence a committee suggested a report might be filed when incidents happen.
So what if the President admonished the committee. Maybe it was unclear just what he wanted the committee to come up with.
Since you seem to have a finger on the pulse of the AMA maybe you could enlighten everyone on exactly what the president wanted.
How do you know what the charge was. In my opinion, liability would encompass every modeling activity regardless if it is sanctioned.I think you're a liability, certainly no asset, otherwise you would be in a position, maybe on the EC.
Enough already, its ridiculus.
The accident happened and the injured person will recover quickly and I'm sure we all wish him well. As for the failsafe issue "No one can guarranty 100% that no matter what rules,regulations, devices or whatever will eliminate accidents" the best that can be expected is a reduction in some of the of them regardless of aircraft size.
From the EC Minutes April 4, 2004
Sanction & Liability – ad hoc (Appendix III)
The chairman thanked C. Maroney and L. Johnson for their work with the committee. He indicated that as a result of conversations with B. Underwood, D. Brown, and C. Bauer, he realizes the committee has strayed from the original charge. After going through the report with Council, Oberdieck requested an affirmative vote to accept the concept of the report.
The president stated that he was not in disagreement with what was contained in the report however the original charge of the committee was to look into the liability generated on part of AMA as a result of sanctioning events, particularly Class C events over which AMA has no control over the rules. He requested a copy of the report be given to Don Lowe/Safety Committee.
The committee did present a report to Council previously that included what should and should not be sanctioned (proposed that AMA ‘sanction’ only rule book events—sanctioned and listed in contest calendar, and all other events would be ‘listed’ for purposes of the contest calendar). Also proposed at that time was the concept of contest directors (for rule book events)/event directors (all other events). The president noted that in the discussion last year it was determined that nothing could be done with the term event director until the bylaws had been changed, however we could do something about using the term sanction when using it in connection with Class C events. J. Gelwicks explained how liability is premised on the right to control. He also confirmed that by accepting payment for ‘instant membership’ at a contest, a CD is acting as an agent of the Academy but by removing the authority for a CD to do this, does not necessarily mean he is no longer considered an agent.
Conclusion: The item was referred back to Committee to review the motion from February 2002 which was rescinded at the April 2002 meeting and address the issue of sanctioning only rule book events and listing or registering the other events.
From the EC Minutes July 2, 2004
Appendix IV