OK, i got the stage 2 motors (which ARE worth the money) and the all wheel drive kit, plus a light kit for fun, but any ways, i took the tires off and drove on bare rim.......this thing drifts like a dream, we have a smooth cement basement, and I had a blast for about an hour just drifting away. Not too good at drifting around things yet,and ended up stratching the body some, but hey, its my first night trying this, so i have time to get better