Mmmmm Waterfalls … so that’s what they are called. Thanks for all the responses, they were helpful. Ha, DA 150 – I actually got that joke.

Jsonin – yep that’s it. On the simulator I usually start from vertical, do a single forward rotation, and return to vertical (perhaps then do a single reverse rotation …). - like the Christophe Paysant Le Roux Cap demo recording. They guy in your clip does about successive 15 rotations in a row – impressive (I’ll be happy with just a single rotation).

I just love the way the SE model flies in G2, it hovers really nicely. I would love to have plane that flys like the G2 model. That Charlie guy (who made the G2 model) is a genius. I suspected that waterfalls are really difficult to do with an actual plane (i.e., difficult in getting the right set-up). Even in G2 the set-up has to be just right - if you adjust the parameters a bit (e.g., switch to a four stroke engine, slow the servos a down bit) no more waterfalls – just loops. Still might get a SE, I just like the plane. Looks like I have a ways to go before being able to set up a plane to do waterfalls.

I was actually wondering about the use of flaperons to improve the response from the plane. I was guessing they might help – but this was just a guess. Looks like Shortman has confirmed that you need more than just that on the SE. I need to get my radio plugged into G2 and try some of these mixes out.

From flying G2 I concluded that you need fast servos (with the killer control linkages to match), the correct throws and very fast throttle response. Although there are lot of other issues, I wonder how critical the type of plane is.

So far I can see that SIG 300XS and profile Gee Bee are waterfall capable (obviously in the hands of the right builder/pilot). The SIG 300XS is some serious hardware. It’s just too soon for me to be flying an expensive plane like that. I guess a profile fuselage plane (e.g., Morris Hobbies) is they way to go (I just like the looks of SE better than most profile type planes).

Thanks,
Moses