ORIGINAL: MHester

Well, I don't consider myself an "expert", but I do have a little experience with design and competing.

Personally I love the UFO, it's the plane that got me interested in pattern in the first place. I remember getting that Tower Catalog and there was Joe, pencil thin mustache, sunglasses, holding his "new" UFO. I almost had a cow I wanted it so bad. I hate to let this one go, because it was Joe's personal plane, and it's autographed....and the freakin electric retracts still work! But I realize that because of what it is, I'll never fly it, and it's gathering dust in my shop. I did see it fly once, and it was a rocket! I loved it, but it was a missle and it's also very heavy.

But compared to the Kaos, it's apples and oranges. It's just a better plane. The Great Escape was even better, I had one of those too. If Joe was designing current 2 meter planes I'd have one (and yes I know about the 2 meter birdy, but it's just a big dirty birdy).

Personally I love planes from that era like the Curare and the Tiporare etc, but you have to fly them like they were meant to be flown, fast and screaming. They ARE dated designs, but I like them a lot. I just don't care for the flying box look of the Kaos, it's just before my time I guess. And it doesn't fly good enough to stand out in any way to make it anything special. So, it's just not for me. And it's not great enough to recommend it for someone else looking for a plane to do what the original poster was wanting to do with it. There are better planes out there. I still say the Widebody 60 is the best plane of it's size, flying wise, out there today. It just totally kicks butt, and it IS something above and beyond. THAT plane I could recommend easily (and have a million times I think).

To each his own, to me a Kaos is just a flying box...stick...something.

-Mike