You guys that are waiting for the wind to die down before you fly really crack me up. If you guys that don't like wind lived where I do you would have to find another hobby.

On a different note the Kavan starter is the way to go.

Knife edge flight with mine is great, it only needs a little elevator to maintain. As far as the spins are concerned this plane will not flat or do a knife edge spin. After flying mine all summer about 8 gals worth I've come to the conclusion of 3 things.
#1 it hovers great
#2 knife edge flight is great
#3 this is the first plane I've had that will do a knife edge loop well.

This plane has a lot to be desired in my opinion, but for the money it's a good throw in the truck knock around plane.