I own 3 ultimates and I want a 28% ultimate. My favorite is the 120 size Dave Patrick with a Saito 180, it flys awesome! They are the best flying planes I've ever flown. My problem is I do not want to go through the hastle of assembling a biplane, my Patrick fits in my van in one piece. Yeah, you could call me lazy but I'm sure there are many people who after work want to spend their time flying and not setting up and tearing down a plane... or crashing because in your haste forgot that important screw. Yes the Ultimate market is covered by Dave Patrick, Aeroworks, Hanger 9 and Goldberg but show me a easy to transport, fast idiot proof assembaly and I'll show you my credit card number!