thnx for those pics dan...,,,,, phil ,and guys ,don,t get me wrong ,,,I wasn,t on the sticks and was sceered s--tless,happy,,in shock,adrenaline overdosed ,etc.,i felt like burt rutan watching ss1. its just like, it was my child performing for the first time.. I have not flown a turbine r/c yet ,,at all,, maybe tomorrow tho,,, ed has a buddy set up,,maybe then i will join in this elite group [ r/c turbine jet flyers ] ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if i don,t faint..