I loved my Mini 3D!!!! It was an Awesome plane right up to its death (radio failure ) had a norvel 25 on it. I then made a Pizza box and had a great time with it also, but wanted something that looked a little more like a conventional plane ( like wing, tail feathers ect. ) so I built the 25 size QHOR from www.spadtothebone.com I’m having an Awesome time with it, too !!!! it took only a few hours to build and is almost indestructible. ( I tested that point out over and over again )