I have had 3 Four STAR 40'S two FOUR STAR 60'S and one FOUR STAR 120. All of them will do a dead flat flat spin, knife edge, and a great knife edge spin. If the plane is built straight and side balanced correctly they will do continuous loops inside and outside by just holding full up or full down elevator. This plane is one of the biggest foolers out there. If you put a hot engine in any of these planes they are more aerobatic than most of the Caps and Extras and yet have no bad habbits at low speed. They advertise this as a second plane but it is so much more than that.