Thanks Jim, I fly a Twist, a U Stick 60 and a U Stick 120 lite. I tend to have all mine a little nose heavy, I think I will start moving the CGs back on them. The only one I have now that will get close to a flat spin is the 120 lite. I did some more looking and found
the Mike McCon????? whoever page at Hangar 9s site. I think what he might have been doing was sort of a blender... Maybe. I also went to the AMA page to try to find descriptions of maneuvers but could not find anything.
Thanks for the help
Ron