i have been on the list ever since ben posted his candid opinions in a an already closed thread and gave a lame excuse as to how it was done by mistake, yet when he had the opportunity and ability to correct it ben did neither. i also, am not suprised to hear that ben feels the more people he makes upset the better he thinks he is doing his job. pathetic. arrogant. out of touch. no spin? my head is spinning. not really, i dont let this stuff get to me, i just find it funny when some are so arrogant[:@] and in their mind so innocent,[X(] such a victim.[] oh well, in the big scheme it does not matter and nor does bens out of touch attitude. the post in my opinion were relevant, i did not see any bashing either, however i dont think funsonic falls into the category of customers being guinea pigs. it seems to be proven with a good track record. but folks dont think ben is going to back down because he isnt, the last time he was just as defiant. my 2 cents... barry