Red,
That last sentence was not exactly fair. Dave Brown (and others of note - sf and jm) clain that the internet is just this decade's version of the CB radio and all the noise (and filth) that brought into our lives. The impact this and other forums has had on the election seems to support their position better that anything you or I can bring to the table as proof otherwise.

scrcc_guy said "The trick will be in the offering of incentives, and choices in membership services which have not been thought of (yet). More rules, edicts and unbridled spending at Muncie are not the answer. "

On this one, we agree. Your last sentence says the majority of what is important even though the rest of your post rings in well.

Horrace, go to the AMA site and click on MA and select the current issue. Look at Joyce's column and at the very bottom you can read exactly what I quoted. The date given there is December 2004. Your remarks about the EVP and finances are not exactly on target, but you could use this as ammunition to rant on about why MA is NOT a profit center instead of a cost center. So, either I am too stupid to see your point or I have provided the correct guide to the answer you need. Let me know please.

As for my remarks about "Like it used to be.", I was not talking about the 60's or 70's but about the 80's and NOT the 90's when our organization seemed to have learned how to get rid of lots and lots of money with no tangible benefit that the average modeler can attest to. Insurance and Muncie do NOT make the grade in that regard. I know your opinion about Muncie but do not feel that we should be throwing lots and lots of dollars down that black hole.