Hi TAILDRAGGER, I can see your point, and can't blame you for holding a grudge if Mr BAUER dissed you guys without at least a good excuse. A guy doesn't get to the VP position by being a jerk and a social liability all the time though. As far as the complaints about DB go, I have lurked around here enough to have some background on why he is disliked here, but it just seems like a murky hodgepodge of hang nail type complaints about relatively insignificant minutia that has no effect or meaning at all to the majority. I don't think it is possible for any man to fill this position and always make everyone happy. I just haven't seen anything from DB that has shaken my faith, I think he honestly is trying to do what is best for the most. DM might very well be a better man for the job, I can't say, I don't know either him or DB, nor do I pretend to..