thanks for the info guys, im trying to put togeather a project without buying much more equiment, i have a pair of small gas bottles (acetylene/oxygen) that i can use to braze the metals togeather, i might just do that, since i allready have everything i need except for the rods, i wanted to use mig because its quick and my only welding experance is on a mig welder, i dont have alot of welding to do so brazing might not be all that bad.