Dick, my Carden weighs about 34 pounds, it was as light as I could make it because I do agree that light is better. Please don't miss my point I'm not disputing that. What I am saying is that there are 3-D maneuvers that require a wing load high enough to allow for a violent stall and pivot around the CG, this becomes harder and harder as the load drops and requires more and more control surface deflection.
Filip, a Venus is not a brick and nobody is saying that it is,they are very good planes for the size. But it does not fly like a 2X2 pattern plane and it never will, this is not a put-down of the plane. Understand larger planes fly different then smaller its why large plane are becoming so popular.