Thanks for the replys folks.

I use to work for Lockheed myself. Worked last in Marietta, primarily on the F-22 program. Not long ago I contacted some folks I knew there asking about the copywrite stuff, and I did not get any real good answers. But it was clear that they do consider the designs and likenesses copywrite material.

At one time while on the program, I wanted to build a flyable R/C F-22 model. I was prohibited from doing so due to copywrite reasons, and also due to the fact I was involved with the program - there were "other" conflict/security/proprietary issues involved. It simply was not worth the hassle.

I was just more surprised that they would be chasing smaller model companies, especially after about 60 years of models being commonly available. I can see perhaps going after high volume stuff like clothing, video games, etc... but even that is a stretch. Maybe the approach is to avoid problems by making no exceptions.

Someone note the Kodak plane. I've heard of that myself. Also some other companies who regulate or prohibit stuff like that. Turned out in one case, it was because someone had a model stock car painted "in scale sponsor colors" that clipped someone in the ankles. In the resulting lawsuit (lawyers rule the world ?), the "sponsor" from the paint job was included as a defendant simply because their name was on the r/c car.

Also, if you look in the Extream Speed forum a few months back, there was an RCU member building a patriot, and was using the Red Bull colors. He requested permission... they wanted to charge him for using the markings.

Bob