Yeah, the black Extra is a little tougher to fly. I only flew it with the stock throws and it felt like more of an IMAC plane, really graceful. I will crank up the rates and give it a go,,

I have already downloaded them all, the OMP Planes that is but I have only installed the Bipe. I really like it, flies like a real profile plane. I will probably download the big Yak tonite or tomorrow if the weather isnt good for the real thing..