[quote]ORIGINAL: Luke 3D returns


"Acheiving a decent high angle of attack with just the elev is not possible in my opinion, and you have a lot less control over where the model is going."







In your honest opinion? What are you talking about. Aint no opinion to it. YOU CANT DO THEM PERFECTLY without rudder. There is a reason Leesburg spent 250 flight getting them down. Guess what. He is invited to all the different events like XFC and whatnot. He flys them perfectly WITH RUDDER. Yes a good starting point is to do them without rudder. Thats how I started. Then as you progress and start learning rudder inputs, then you add rudder. It is a slow process, even with a simulator. Oh, by the way, the simulator, especially AFP, cheats. All the plane feel extremely floaty. I can put my sukhoi in rolling harriers all day long, but on AFP I pretty much have to relearn the technique because the planes dont fly realisticly. Dont get me wrong, it is still superior to G2, but it is still not the real thing. I hope you figure out how to post the video so we can see these PERFECT rolling harriers.