Why doesnt'' someone come out with a rolling circle/harrier how to video showing the manuever and the thumb movements in the corner,,, I would buy it, I can torque roll great, harrier, all other 3d maneuvers but rolling harriers are giving me a fit, what throws do you guys have on elevator, rudder, ailerons on your real plane or on AFP sim, so I can enter them and keep trying I'll start the rolling and it just goes straight to the ground,,,,,,,,,,,[:@]