I say to all of you who dont use rudder, start using it. As i said earlier, WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL USING RUDDER and the reluctance of some would be aerobatic pilots in refusing to use it. Next you'll be telling us you don't need rudder for stall turns and spins!!

Plus i want to see a vid of these so called perfect rolling circles with no rudder. An attempt at a one roll rolling circle preferably. Should be funny and if i cant tell the difference between that and a proper one with rudder then you can have my new YS160.

Right, im off to the gym.

Angus