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I thought I was doing real rolling harrier circles getting away with elevator, but only until I started practicing on the sim. They looked pretty good before, BUT theres a big difference in the look and feel when you use full deflection rudder and elevator and are getting the attitude up to about 60 degrees. Keeping it there dramatically reduces the planes tendency to want to accelerate the roll rate. I always read on Flying Cirkus that you needed full high rate elevator and rudder and aileron to do RHC's correctly and I didnt believe it. Now that I am able to hold a consistant high AOA like they say to. I NEED high aileron rates just to get the plane to roll because the plane is moving forward so slowly that propwash is all I have to get the roll going. You just move the elevator and rudder back and forth against the stops at the right moment and use the throttle to maintain AOA and play with the ailerons a little to get the roll rate constant.

When you finally get the timing right on elevator/rudder inputs and can manipulate rudder and throttle comfortably at the same time its amazing how all of the sudden rolling harriers actually seem easy and just fall in place all at once, I was fooling myself,,,, they look totally different using all 4 control variables to perform the maneuver.. It feels really good to be at that point. Not only with the sim but with my 30% Edge..