Thanks guys....I don,t want marginal....so back it goes. I did not open the seal. I always try to find out the most I can on a product before I install it into my puter. CCity has lots of others to choose from!!! I am also going to take this puter apart enough to see if it has a AGP slot besides the PCI slots. I read on the HP support that it could have both. The APG would be brown...and the PCI white. So with no further adooooo its take apart time.!!!