humm well a few things .. i used to be rudder retarded would almost never touch it ......ive been breaking that habit for a wile and this has improved my flying skills. i can also to a rolling harrier with only elevator and throttle management in fact i did one about 15 min ago flying in my front yard with my shocky .... they look fine .. i can also do one with rudder and elevator lol so i can tell the difference a little bit but to most people watching me they cant tell

but it can be done
i have one other q for n e one that has any ideas i cant seem to figure this one out .. my shock flyer will sometimes anti torque roll on its own ... no aileron input at all but only indoors .. it has to be dead calm and any time i try to make it happen it wont and when i dint want it to it will as well .. thx