I say, PIPER CHUCK FOR AMA PREZ!!!!!!!!!!! That was well said, P.C. (you could also be Politically Correct). To add, almost all flying clubs require AMA mambership for the insurance coverage. Motoxer, why don't you try to make our January meeting on Thursday the 13th? If you go to the Hky airport terminal, drive around to the lower end of the parking lot behind the terminal building, the old Flight Service office is on that end facing the aircraft ramp area. There's a picnic table in front of the door, meeting is at 7pm. You can meet some of the guys and all your questions can get answered. Hope to see you. Ken