The market place has responded to the AMA feilds in this country. A segment of the market has simply said, "no thanks". Not because of something Dave Brown said to them. Not because something that Dave Brown did, or thought or is thinking or about to think. Lets face it, a segment of the people in this hobby are only in this hobby for a couple of years . The parkflyers have grabbed many of those people away. And I still maintain that the population is increasingly urban and that it is very inconvenient for them to drive 30 or 45 minutes to fly. And many of the AMA feilds have moved far to the outskirts of cities to establish safe sites. Catch 22.