i had put it in a thermal take case and it was having issues saying the vid driver failed to load and once in a while it said the power to the vid card was un pluged. what happened was heat built up at the conector cheep craftsmanship? anyway to fix it i cut the pin of the ATI 9800 and drilled out both connectors and soldered a wire right to the board and purchased a 480W true blue Antec power supply these cards get hot 60c or about 140F is considered normal to me thats hot takes power to make heat well its all cured now ya thats automotive antifreez in the case now it wont even get to 100f i think 32c is all ive seen thats what 88f just above room temp when its taxed now thats cool