Thanks. The field is in Tucson, but it is not where the Jet rally is held. The rally is on the other side of town. Past the Old Tucson Studios. The weather was not very good today a little cold 62 degrees. I know it is a lot colder where you are. It is funny I was reading the thread about the new way to do rolling harriers and I thought about my rolling harriers, the ones in the video and there is no way I could do them without rudder.