Cal, sounds like you have it tuned in on the money. I have the inverted flight thing down to 2 clicks trim from one side to the other. The roll rate being so slow is what keeps them from being axial for more than a roll or two. I am still working on the decent pattern. My last landing had the gear doing the splits, stalled it 3 feet off the deck and it pancaked. THIS PLANE IS STRONG!!![>:]