how fast are these with the single speed, im thinking about getting a deluxe myself but they dont have pivot ball adjustment so some think I should stay away. Thing is, it seems like a really good basher and I will without a doubt be doin a lil bashing

Not sure.....still having trouble deciding...

also this has been out for some time.....will there me something newer, cheaper, better, etc ....just the progression of any product...they get better and less expensive.

any input let me know
THANKS