What may be competitive in Masters or below will not be so competitive in F3A. And my so called garbage PL Partner now has 500 flights on it, with none of the problems Mike has described. I know Troy Newman has many hundreds of flights on both Pl and ZN models with none of those described problems.

I still say that you could not build one of the current style, large fuselage, F3A competitive models in wood at anywhere near the weights the PL and ZN kits do. The Typhoon 2000 or the modified version is just not that competive in the current F3A schedules. Is it good model for many, sure, but you won't see it in the finals at the World's.

You guys can all continue to shoot arrows at companies like PL or ZN if you want to, have a blast. But in the extremely small market called pattern they have provided top quality kits of modern design airplanes, flown to top places in the World's, designed by the pilots who flew them into those top placings. And they have done it for probably very little profit for their investment. I'm not trying to absolve them of the apparent problems with some business dealings. But I can also understand how those problems can occur, especially when dealing with relatively small overseas companies directly. That is why when I saw the opportunity to buy 2 Partner kits from Russ I jumped on it. Why when a Lazulite kit became available to me I snapped it up. I know quality when I see it and IMO the PL kits have it.

Mike. I have no problem with your zeal about doing your own thing. In fact, I applaud you for it. But I also fail to understand why you find it necessary to make attacks on others like you do. Oh, wait, I get it now. I just read your signature! VBG