Tony if you find me attacking others , you may want to read furtehr back and understand why. Personally I don't see attacks. I see opinions, animated opinions, pointed problems with REAL examples, and then extremely condescending insults. I attract it like a magnet, because I do post with a bit of zeal and animation. I speak the same way in person.
In my opinion, they are garbage. As a package. I'm not faulting the quality of the glass work as a piece in itself, but there's much more to it. They have faults, and poor back up should you need it. That's not a good thing for competetive people. Yeah the quality of what you get is good, but $1600+ worth? No. Not hardly. If someone over here were making these things and the price was more reasonable, and you could GET parts when you needed them, that would be swell. But so far, it ain't happenin. IT IS A PROBLEM FOR US REGULAR PEOPLE.
As for "can't get a wood plane that light" that's hogwash. Use heavy wood, get a heavy plane. Use light wood, get a light plane. If you structure it correctly, it works. You're playing with electrics, that's a different ball game, you can afford to give up a lot of structure for weight. Shall I prove it can be done??
I'm glad your's and Troy's planes are holding out fine. Every one around here isn't. I have to make a new set of wings for a Hydeaway now, because the wing tube has wallowed out inside the wing and the support has broken through the skin. And that's with about 500 flights of masters. And this is the second in a row this has happened to. The sockets installed at the factory are too thin, and the supports are insufficient.
I'm fully aware of FAI being a different game. But not everybody plays it, it's not the be-all-end-all of pattern. How many people in the US ever actually fly F-05 in competition? Now apply that as a percentage to those that don't. Point.
As if 2 stroke vs YS wasn't bad enough, here we go with this stuff.
And yes, I am an evil bad monkey man. I disclose that up front. That's so you'll know I am a devil's advocate right off the bat.
-Mike
Edited cuz I misread something. Hey gimme a break, it's after 2 AM and I'm aligning the wings on a wood roach
That people tell me is very similar to a PArtner BTW....but wood, and very light....and straight......but I'm fooling myself it's a roach!!!!! Why bother?????
Teehee.