Thanks for all your help. truth is i just want the parchute so i dont have to land. Flew four years ago about 6 times, crashed 7. but thats dumb because landing is the most exciting part for me. anyway, this time im gonna do it right and join a club. Think ill get one of them DuraPlanes too. man i cant wait, i wanna do some full contact combat someday, hopfully sooner than later. oh, and that coast-gaurd plane in the add is awsome. anyone seen the making of Empire of the Sun? its on the dvd. lots and lots of rc planes. the b-17 bomber with a 19 foot wingspan was awsome. so i need to hurry up and learn to fly! thanks for the help.