Uh, what is wrong with SPA flying, MHester? You mention the SPA over and over like it is something inferior. They are holding the Masters at our field this year, so I've seen them fly. I see a Widebody 60 fly whenever I want to, and I've flown it a few times. I'm building a WB 40 at the moment. I'm just wondering what you have against the SPA competition? Maybe you think your pattern flying is superior to theirs? Sure sounds like it to me.