Thanks Rusirius. I check the plug for glow every other attempt, it is good I also put in a new one and check it as well so the plug is hot. As far as the needle's I have tried leaning the main ( 1-1 3/4 turns) and normal low speed( 2-1 1/2 turns), I have not tried richining the low while leaning the main though. This gives me a glimpse of hope .

I have tryed countless combonations with the needles for days and days some times running down the batt on my transmiter trying to get a pop out of this rig. The closest I have got was a little smoke with a very low sounding rumble, and this was only while the starter motor was turning it over. I wish I had a magic wand that would just pre set the needle's [sm=lol.gif].

I keep posting all these happy face's and the whole time you know I really look like this [&o]. There is one thing that I have learned about this hobby through the years and that is that you must always keep a smile and a good attitude, even thirty seconds after crashing one of your favorite model's. I know I do this more than I like to admit, lol. My uncle who got me in to this hobby was very clear on this in the begining, used to say if you can't laugh about a crash you shouldent even be flying them, which has keep me in the hobby for about 13 years so far.

slater, Ike