I picked them up at Michaels for about $3, but am still not sure if I like them or not. They work great and are a little thinner than the standard T pins. The only problem that I have found is that the yellow tops come off real easy. For the cost though, I will probably keep using them. They are easier to push in and don't do as much damage since they are thinner. Now if I could figure out how to keep the yellow tops on, they would be just right. You get about 500 in a box, so for the three bucks, I can buy quite a few boxes and still not spend much on them.