well..your kinda in a dilema then..I think the sky-scooter pro2...can be flwon by a begginer..and is tuff...but theres no doubt that the other 2 planes mentioned earlier are better begginer planes...BUT...they dont come with good radio systems...the scooter does..most RTF planes..are under $200 but come with the toy 27mhz transmitters...the sky scooter pro2 broke that trend..and added value by offering a complete kit with a 72 mhz system for under $140...go to hobbypeople.com ...or towerhobbies.com..and look at it...