PJ, have a look on the Titanium Racing website. A guy contacted them a while ago asking about getting some made for his FF. They replied by saying if he wanted to send a sample of CENs' driveshaft, they would be able to make them for him. They must have worked pretty well because the same bloke went on to decimate the BRCA 1:10 truck 4wd class racing under the name Quando. If yoo have no joy with the HPI shafts it may be worth a go. This is their web address http://nt4870.vs.netbenefit.co.uk/index.asp Hope this is of some use.